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This week, we continue our conversation with Chad Vegas defining proclamation, outlining the dangers of pragmatism, and sketching a vision for a biblically-driven missiology.
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Chad is the founding pastor of Sovereign Grace Church of Bakersfield, the founding board chairman of Radius International and Radius Theological Institute, and the founding board vice-chairman of Providence Classical Academy. He also serves as adjunct faculty for IRBS Theological Seminary and the Institute of Public Theology. He has been married to Teresa since 1994 and has two children.
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Hi there, I’m mike cain and I’m a missionary in Tokyo with the navigators. Thank yo for this podcast. It’s been very helpful for me to think through doctrine and missiology.
I’m interested in your book on missions. Is there a way to get it on Ebook?
I’m wondering also if you know other missionaries or agencies in Tokyo. I am reformed in theology and interested in the proclamation model of evangelism. Just want to find like minded bros to connect with and pray with.
Thank you and God bless!
Hi guys,
I wanted to send in an email with the link above, but it didn’t seem to work, so I’m just posting the comment publicly here. I’d like to thank you for your great podcast and for this great discussion on evangelism as proclamation. I agree.
However, I am disappointed also. I’d like to affirm what Scott mentioned again and again, contrary to your guest from Radius Intl, that not all “movement” missiologies, paradigms and methodologies are based on the DMM philosophy of David and Paul Watson, Jerry Trousdale and that DMM methodology. I find your critiques about DMM were helpful, and I agree with them.
I just find that the guest, Chad, continues to group all “movement” practitioners together as anti-proclamational. Scott did a great job of giving some push-back, which is much needed.
I am a missionary and proponent of “movement” philosophy that is proclomational and uses the same tools that you guys outlined at the end of your podcast (chronological bible storying methods, creation to Christ evangelism, etc, etc.). However, we still think about, pray for, and strategize toward movement methodology in a way that I think is Biblical (I’m also Reformed Baptist in theology). There is a large number of “movement” practitioners in the missions world that are not glued to the teachings of what is known as “Disciple-making Movements” (although they may borrow the name).
I find the guest from Radius Intl doesn’t fairly represent the gammit of approaches to evangelism that “movement” practitioners use. I’d encourage looking at some other models out there such as Training for Trainers (T4T), the 4 Fields practitioners, #NoPlaceLeft practitioners, etc. Many others advocate for hybrid models such as those in my mission organization Global Gates.
I appreciate your critiques of “movement methodology” as there are many significant problems with some leading practitioners as you’ve brought to light. It’s not helpful to be so loose in your categorizations by continuing to group all “movement thinkers” as wrong. It makes me wonder if you’ve contrasted the different paradigms out there thoroughly.
But thanks so much for your discussion. It did solidify the approaches I am using even as I work through contextualizing the gospel, multiplying proclamation, addressing worldview issues in evangelism, and training all disciples of Jesus to do the same in church planting multiplication and movements. 🙂